K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.
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According to Jeansonne”The Turkish writing at the top of the xatalogo reads Son of Cymbalsmith “, but in their trademark application registration number Avedis Zildjian themselves say: But you should be aware that this usage is non standard, as are other things on that site. I am happy to accept well referenced additions or corrections to when models come in and out, the years when stamps or particular ink styles appeared, etc.
This is different from the traditional font used, although it seems the same as the font used for the Avedis Zildjian and Cie stamps.
But whatever you have to do, there will be a paste in there somewhere. But I do appreciate contributions from others, particularly because I haven’t got any Zildjian catalogs, price lists, and old drumming magazines with ads.
A list of the model changes is here.
Early 70s Zildjian ride models
These aren’t found in all cases, but they are common enough to be worth mentioning. Large Stamps mid s Image: I would say that this site is best avoided unless you really know what you are doing.
As in true Zildjian style, the cymbals are made adhering to their traditional formula of 80 per cent copper and 20 percent tin, with the occasional glimmer of silver. Avedis Joins Zildjian on the top Image: I don’t yet know if there was any die stamp difference between the two eras zilduian between the two different types of Zilco by AZCO cymbals.
This stamp may also appear on fully lathed cymbals. In addition, this Canadian version has a very Trans Stamp like property: However, there are a couple of other differences between the s small stamp and the s stamp which make the difference cataloggo given a decent photo.
Zilco Showing Catlogo Hammering The above Zilco shows the similarity of the hammering style to either the pre Trans stamps above or the Trans stamps next entry.
The following image does a better job of illustrating the late 50s characteristic relatively bold ZILDJIAN and Ottoman sections, as well as showing how different the same die stamp can 20112 depending on the details of how firmly it is pressed in and which portions are pressed in the most. There are some Large Stamps which don’t show the flat bell, and here is one 22″ example thanks to Mike Layton. First here are examples of each with a ruler. Some of these mid 50s cymbals have a Trans Stamp on them, some have a Large Stamp on them.
Having checked myself against my reference collection I can do the test visually without having to do the actual construction. What you do is go to the Year by Year Timeline and click on the zildjiam to the picture you want. There is more ink on the Pre Trans Stamp cymbals which can disappear with cleaning First Stamp Writing These early cymbals sometimes have writing still present under the bell.
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cqtalogo The same goes for later events, but as we move forward the uncertainty reduces a bit. These are all illustrated in a photo of one of these s pseudo Hollow Block versus the real Hollow Block Finally, if zildjiab stamp stumps you, there are other production clues on cymbals zildjlan late 50s visible hammering and lathing and the treatment of bells which let you tell a mid s cymbal from a s cymbal.
In the large Stamp there is a small gap before the E of Genuine. In order to distinguish the no three dots Large from the no dots Late 50s Small Stampsuse the details of which parts are bold versus finer lines. Large stamp without the 3 dots This above stamp, shown with ruler, does not have the three dots.
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catlogo Large stamp showing the flat center of the bell Above you can see the flat portion of the bell. Solid Script Zildjian The Zildjian becomes solid rather than hollow font, and now it is found on both the top and the bottom of the cstalogo.
Solid Zildjian on the top and bottom Image: Zilco Showing Top Hammering Image: The K version shown above is AJ so that is They are, but what lets us tell them apart without measuring is the pattern of breaks or quirks.
I’ve come across two more AZCO stamps which were also used, and there may be more. In order to distinguish the three dots 0212 from the s stamp notice which portions of the stamp seem relatively bold and which are in finer lines.
The date of the publication is in the lower left corner. Often the most obvious zi,djian feature is that the edges of the die stamp are pressed in more firmly and this shows particularly in the deeper Z of Z ildjian and o of C o.
I should have been more specific. Just came across two more catalog scans. You now have a time machine at your fingertips.
The other thing to notice is that this is a calligraphic device not strict linear text, and that is part actalogo it being a design which pleases the eye. One Inch s Stamp on Earth Ride which really gives the game away that this is not a Late 50s Small Stamp since Earth Rides only came into retail shops in about The next stamp s is slightly smaller.
In addition, the ” stamp” has the same quirks which distinguish the s short stamp leaving me convinced that it is the short 60s trademark die stamp which was applied to an older cymbal which had been in storage in the vault for a few years. The stamp tells you which stamp went on the cymbal when it was stamped. There are a few different lettering styles used in the different decades, but ink has been around for a long time.
Note zildjkan New Beat hi hats are a little different in terms of model ink. These two are dated in the printing itself. If you do a direct comparison of the two they are different: Zildjian in the USA.